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Climate Facts to Warm To

March 23, 2008 By jennifer

There is a nice piece in The Australian this weekend by Christopher Pearson. He writes:

“Catastrophic predictions of global warming usually conjure with the notion of a tipping point, a point of no return.

Last Monday – on ABC Radio National, of all places – there was a tipping point of a different kind in the debate on climate change. It was a remarkable interview involving the co-host of Counterpoint, Michael Duffy and Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs. Anyone in public life who takes a position on the greenhouse gas hypothesis will ignore it at their peril.
Duffy asked Marohasy: “Is the Earth stillwarming?”

She replied: “No, actually, there has been cooling, if you take 1998 as your point of reference. If you take 2002 as your point of reference, then temperatures have plateaued. This is certainly not what you’d expect if carbon dioxide is driving temperature because carbon dioxide levels have been increasing but temperatures have actually been coming down over the last 10 years.”

Duffy: “Is this a matter of any controversy?”

Marohasy: “Actually, no. The head of the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) has actually acknowledged it. He talks about the apparent plateau in temperatures so far this century. So he recognises that in this century, over the past eight years, temperatures have plateaued … This is not what you’d expect, as I said, because if carbon dioxide is driving temperature then you’d expect that, given carbon dioxide levels have been continuing to increase, temperatures should be going up … So (it’s) very unexpected, not something that’s being discussed. It should be being discussed, though, because it’s very significant.”

Duffy: “It’s not only that it’s not discussed. We never hear it, do we? Whenever there’s any sort of weather event that can be linked into the global warming orthodoxy, it’s put on the front page. But a fact like that, which is that global warming stopped a decade ago, is virtually never reported, which is extraordinary.”

Duffy then turned to the question of how the proponents of the greenhouse gas hypothesis deal with data that doesn’t support their case. “People like Kevin Rudd and Ross Garnaut are speaking as though the Earth is still warming at an alarming rate, but what is the argument from the other side? What would people associated with the IPCC say to explain the (temperature) dip?”

Marohasy: “Well, the head of the IPCC has suggested natural factors are compensating for the increasing carbon dioxide levels and I guess, to some extent, that’s what sceptics have been saying for some time: that, yes, carbon dioxide will give you some warming but there are a whole lot of other factors that may compensate or that may augment the warming from elevated levels of carbon dioxide.

“There’s been a lot of talk about the impact of the sun and that maybe we’re going to go through or are entering a period of less intense solar activity and this could be contributing to the current cooling.”

Duffy: “Can you tell us about NASA’s Aqua satellite, because I understand some of the data we’re now getting is quite important in our understanding of how climate works?”

Marohasy: “That’s right. The satellite was only launched in 2002 and it enabled the collection of data, not just on temperature but also on cloud formation and water vapour. What all the climate models suggest is that, when you’ve got warming from additional carbon dioxide, this will result in increased water vapour, so you’re going to get a positive feedback. That’s what the models have been indicating. What this great data from the NASA Aqua satellite … (is) actually showing is just the opposite, that with a little bit of warming, weather processes are compensating, so they’re actually limiting the greenhouse effect and you’re getting a negative rather than a positive feedback.”

Duffy: “The climate is actually, in one way anyway, more robust than was assumed in the climate models?”

Marohasy: “That’s right … These findings actually aren’t being disputed by the meteorological community. They’re having trouble digesting the findings, they’re acknowledging the findings, they’re acknowledging that the data from NASA’s Aqua satellite is not how the models predict, and I think they’re about to recognise that the models really do need to be overhauled and that when they are overhauled they will probably show greatly reduced future warming projected as a consequence of carbon dioxide.”

Duffy: “From what you’re saying, it sounds like the implications of this could beconsiderable …”

Marohasy: “That’s right, very much so. The policy implications are enormous. The meteorological community at the moment is really just coming to terms with the output from this NASA Aqua satellite and (climate scientist) Roy Spencer’s interpretation of them. His work is published, his work is accepted, but I think people are still in shock at this point.”

If Marohasy is anywhere near right about the impending collapse of the global warming paradigm, life will suddenly become a whole lot more interesting.

A great many founts of authority, from the Royal Society to the UN, most heads of government along with countless captains of industry, learned professors, commentators and journalists will be profoundly embarrassed. Let us hope it is a prolonged and chastening experience.

With catastrophe off the agenda, for most people the fog of millennial gloom will lift, at least until attention turns to the prospect of the next ice age. Among the better educated, the sceptical cast of mind that is the basis of empiricism will once again be back in fashion. The delusion that by recycling and catching public transport we can help save the planet will quickly come to be seen for the childish nonsense it was all along.

The poorest Indians and Chinese will be left in peace to work their way towards prosperity, without being badgered about the size of their carbon footprint, a concept that for most of us will soon be one with Nineveh and Tyre, clean forgotten in six months.

The scores of town planners in Australia building empires out of regulating what can and can’t be built on low-lying shorelines will have to come to terms with the fact inundation no longer impends and find something more plausible to do. The same is true of the bureaucrats planning to accommodate “climate refugees”.

Penny Wong’s climate mega-portfolio will suddenly be as ephemeral as the ministries for the year 2000 that state governments used to entrust to junior ministers. Malcolm Turnbull will have to reinvent himself at vast speed as a climate change sceptic and the Prime Minister will have to kiss goodbye what he likes to call the great moral issue and policy challenge of our times.

It will all be vastly entertaining to watch.

THE Age published an essay with an environmental theme by Ian McEwan on March 8 and its stablemate, The Sydney Morning Herald, also carried a slightly longer version of the same piece.

The Australian’s Cut & Paste column two days later reproduced a telling paragraph from the Herald’s version, which suggested that McEwan was a climate change sceptic and which The Age had excised. He was expanding on the proposition that “we need not only reliable data but their expression in the rigorous use of statistics”.

What The Age decided to spare its readers was the following: “Well-meaning intellectual movements, from communism to post-structuralism, have a poor history of absorbing inconvenient fact or challenges to fundamental precepts. We should not ignore or suppress good indicators on the environment, though they have become extremely rare now. It is tempting to the layman to embrace with enthusiasm the latest bleak scenario because it fits the darkness of our soul, the prevailing cultural pessimism. The imagination, as Wallace Stevens once said, is always at the end of an era. But we should be asking, or expecting others to ask, for the provenance of the data, the assumptions fed into the computer model, the response of the peer review community, and so on. Pessimism is intellectually delicious, even thrilling, but the matter before us is too serious for mere self-pleasuring. It would be self-defeating if the environmental movement degenerated into a religion of gloomy faith. (Faith, ungrounded certainty, is no virtue.)”

The missing sentences do not appear anywhere else in The Age’s version of the essay. The attribution reads: “Copyright Ian McEwan 2008” and there is no acknowledgment of editing by The Age.

Why did the paper decide to offer its readers McEwan lite? Was he, I wonder, consulted on the matter? And isn’t there a nice irony that The Age chose to delete the line about ideologues not being very good at “absorbing inconvenient fact”?

[End of article]

It has made a bit of a splash in the blogshere:

Global Warming: Man Made or Just Another Weather Cycle?
Someone really needs to call Al Gore about this–and maybe the Nobel Peace Prize selection committee. From The Australian:
http://redstateeclectic.typepad.com/redstate_commentary/2008/03/global-warming.html

Many of the following blog links were found here:
http://tailrank.com/5510155/Climate-facts-to-warm-to

Untitled
instapundit.com
ENJOYING SPRINGTIME IN MINNESOTA: It’s sunny and warm here. UPDATE: But if you believe this, I could be chilly in the future: “No, actually, there has been cooling, if you take 1998 as your point of reference. If you take 2002 as your point of reference, then temperatures have plateaued. This is certainly not what you’d expect if carbon dioxide is driving temperature because carbon dioxide levels have been increasing but temperatures have actually been coming down over the last 10 years.”
http://instapundit.com/archives2/016796.php

Negative Feedback Limits Global Warming
deanesmay.com
Great little essay via Glenn : Marohasy: “That’s right. The satellite was only launched in 2002 and it enabled the collection of data, not just on temperature but also on cloud formation and water vapour. What all the climate models suggest is that, when you’ve got warming from additional carbon dioxide, this will result in increased water vapour, so you’re going to get a positive feedback. That’s what the models have been indicating. What this great data from the NASA Aqua satellite … (is) actually showing is just the opposite, that with a little bit of warming, weather processes are compensating, so they’re actually limiting the greenhouse effect and you’re getting a negative rather than a positive feedback.
http://www.deanesmay.com/2008/03/22/negative-feedback-limits-global-warming/

Global Warming Ended Ten Years Ago
newsbusters.org
Despite the more hysterical predictions we’ve heard of late, the evidence continues to mount that if the earth was warming, it stopped quite some time ago .
http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2008/03/inconvenient-truth-global-warming-ended.html

“Climate facts to warm to”
soundpolitics.com
Global warming is usually Stefan’s beat, but this article is worth a read because it does so much to spell out the rational case for skeptics. Not necessarily of the notion that the Earth has recently experienced a period of warming, but skepticism of the notion that man is to blame, it’s all because of carbon dioxide, and the only rational course is too hamstring the economy through onerous public policies to address that narrow paradigm. To summarize the article, relying in significant part on information not disputed by the liberally acclaimed IPCC:
http://soundpolitics.com/archives/010417.html

Has the climate stopped warming?
tigerhawk.blogspot.com
Regular readers know that while I accept that greenhouse gases can, at the margin, warm the Earth’s climate, I am also skeptical that intensive regulation of greenhouse gases is necessary to avoid global catastrophe. Against that backdrop, I am justly accused of preferentially linking to articles and stories that suggest that cataclysm is neither visible nor predictable. So: the latest story that wonders whether the planet’s climate has stopped warming and possible explanations therefor.
http://tigerhawk.blogspot.com/2008/03/has-climate-stopped-warming.html

Climate facts to warm to
uncommondescent.com
Read more Climate facts to warm to

Global Scamming
lewrockwell.com
Global warming, such as it was, stopped ten years ago. (Thanks to Heidi Wyss.)

No More Global Warming
strata-sphere.com
Just a reminder as we all wait for Spring to actually ‘sprung’ that from the high average temperature of 1998 to ten years later the Earth’s climate has cooled or plateaued. And don’t take my word for it (though there is no reason why you shouldn’t). Here is some interesting news on Global Warming (or the lack therein) Last Monday – on ABC Radio National, of all places – there was a tipping point of a different kind in the debate on climate change. It was a remarkable interview involving the co-host of Counterpoint, Michael Duffy and Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs.

Untitled
antigreen.blogspot.com
Source

Collapse of the global warming paradigm
blog.freeny.org
“A great many founts of authority, from the Royal Society to the UN, most heads of government along with countless captains of industry, learned professors, commentators and journalists will be profoundly embarrassed. Let us hope it is a prolonged and chastening experience.” Read Climate facts to warm to
http://blog.freeny.org/?p=3103

Untitled
australian-politics.blogspot.com
Source
Blue Crab Boulevard
bluecrabboulevard.com Found 5 hours ago
Because the earth is not, in fact, warming, despite increased carbon emissions . Last Monday – on ABC Radio National, of all places – there was a tipping point of a different kind in the debate on climate change. It was a remarkable interview involving the co-host of Counterpoint, Michael Duffy and Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs.
http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2008/03/22/global-warming-er-never-mind/

Inconvenient Truth: Global Warming Ended Ten Years Ago
jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com
Despite the more hysterical predictions we’ve heard of late, the evidence continues to mount that if the earth was warming, it stopped quite some time ago .

New Age Rain
seablogger.com Found 19 hours ago
It’s raining with the kind of delirious thoroughness that one only sees in the tropics. This is the fourth major rain in the last six weeks, and the unseasonal recharge of the aquifers is most welcome. Still, along with the warmth of this winter, the rains seem to me a portent of more troublesome weather in the summer. Global warming is not required for an active hurricane season. In fact warming had already ceased during the busy years of 2004-5. I am pleased to see the facts getting more circulation, but it will take some time to wring the hysteria out of the media and the global elite — John McCain included.

Oh My Gosh, Were We Wrong About Climate Change?
kneedeepintheephemera.blogspot.com
Climate facts to warm to ,
http://kneedeepintheephemera.blogspot.com/2008/03/oh-my-gosh-were-we-wrong-about-climate.html

THE SATELLITE LOOKS DOWN..
atangledweb.squarespace.com
Fascinating article here on global warming, or the lack of it …it’s from an interview between journalist Michael Duffy and Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs Duffy: “Can you tell us about NASA’s Aqua satellite , because I understand some of the data we’re now getting is quite important in our understanding of how climate works?” Marohasy: “That’s right. The satellite was only launched in 2002 and it enabled the collection of data, not just on temperature but also on cloud formation and water vapour.

PT’s Parking Blog
parkingtoday.typepad.com
I know, I know, it has little to do with parking, but I just couldn’t pass this up. You MUST read this article in the Australian. Basically is quotes a scientist, using UN and NASA data, as showing that global warming stopped in 1998 and in fact Global Cooling is now going on. HUH… This goes along with my theory that if politicians say something, believe the opposite. If this is true, what is the industry set up because of Global Warming going to do? What of carbon footprints or the SUV demise.

Northern hemisphere warming alarmingly
maggiesfarm.anotherdotcom.com
The snow and ice are melting fast. Spring must be here! It’s the time of year when the rich and famous seek riches from alarmism. My friends and I were starting up a company to sell palm trees to the Eskimos, but unfortunately recent satellite data indicate that warming stopped a decade ago . Dang! Our investment is OK though – we shorted Palm Tree Futures as a hedge, and might get filthy rich with those. Plus the government will pay us handsomely not to grow Palms on our experimental Massachusetts Palm farm.

“Global Warming” Must Read of the Day
targetrichenvironment.net
Earlier I posted about Little Cesar worrying about not being able to do his science project on “global warming” because he’s worried that Philadelphia will cut off his free wireless internet. It seems he won’t have to worry quite so much about it now. If you read the dialogue at the beginning, this is priceless ( link ): If Marohasy is anywhere near right about the impending collapse of the global warming paradigm, life will suddenly become a whole lot more interesting. A great many founts of authority, from the Royal Society to the UN, most heads of government along with countless captains of industry, learned professors, commentators and journalists will be profoundly embarrassed.

Proponents Running for Cover as NASA Satellite Data Destroy Faulty Climate Models Used
managersrealm.com Found 10 hours ago
Co-host of Counterpoint Michael Duffy, recently interviewed Jennifer Marohasy, who is a “biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs.” The interview took place on ABC Radio National. When Duffy asked Marohasy: “Is the Earth still warming?” Her response was: “No, actually, there has been cooling, if you take 1998 as your point of reference. If you take 2002 as your point of reference, then temperatures have plateaued. This is certainly not what you’d expect if carbon dioxide is driving temperature because carbon dioxide levels have been increasing but temperatures have actually been coming down over the last 10 years.

Warming Ended A Decade Ago
oblogatoryanecdotes.com
Climate facts to warm to

Should Al Gore return his Nobel?
outrage.typepad.com Found 7 hours ago
Link: Climate facts to warm to | The Australian . CATASTROPHIC predictions of global warming usually conjure with the notion of a tipping point, a point of no return. Last Monday – on ABC Radio National, of all places – there was a tipping point of a different kind in the debate on climate change. It was a remarkable interview involving the co-host of Counterpoint, Michael Duffy and Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs.

Climate facts to warm to
moneyrunner.blogspot.com Found 6 hours ago
Climate facts to warm to: The Earth is Cooling
Gulf Coast Hurricane Tracker
gulf-coast-hurricanes.blogspot.com Found 6 hours ago
Is the Earth still warming?

Interesting new data on the global climate
eclipseweb.blogspot.com Found 6 hours ago
From

The Limits of Our Knowledge
pinotblogger.com Found 6 hours ago
And then today I stumbled across this , from an ABC Radio interview with an Australian biologist named Jennifer Marohasy: Duffy (the interviewer): “Is the Earth still warming?” Marohasy (the biologist): “No, actually, there has been cooling, if you take 1998 as your point of reference. If you take 2002 as your point of reference, then temperatures have plateaued.

LIBERALISM IS A SICKNESS, CONSERVATISM IS THE CURE
theillustratedconservative.blogspot.com Found 6 hours ago
With catastrophe off the agenda, for most people the fog of millennial gloom will lift, at least until attention turns to the prospect of the next ice age. Among the better educated, the sceptical cast of mind that is the basis of empiricism will once again be back in fashion. The delusion that by recycling and catching public transport we can help save the planet will quickly come to be seen for the childish nonsense it was all along.” – The Australian In recent weeks we have seen the foundat

The Joy of the Merely Real
vitalaccuratethinking.blogspot.com Found 6 hours ago
Climate facts to warm to

Climate facts to warm to
lesliesrussell.wordpress.com Found 5 hours ago
Last Monday – on ABC Radio National, of all places – there was a tipping point of a different kind in the debate on climate change. It was a remarkable interview involving the co-host of Counterpoint, Michael Duffy and Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs. Anyone in public life who takes a position on the greenhouse gas hypothesis will ignore it at their peril.Duffy asked Marohasy: “Is the Earth stillwarming?”She replied: “No, actually, there has been cooling, if you take 1998 as your point of reference.

Is the Earth Still Warming
coolmel.typepad.com Found 5 hours ago
I just read this interview with Jennifer Marohasy from The Australian. Marohasy paints a different picture of the Global Warming story. Climate Change skeptics will almost certainly pick up and flaunt this story soon. Hat tip to Uncommon Descent for the link. Here’s an excerpt. “Last Monday – on ABC Radio National, of all places – there was a tipping point of a different kind in the debate on climate change. It was a remarkable interview involving the co-host of Counterpoint, Michael Duffy and Jennifer Marohasy, a biologist and senior fellow of Melbourne-based think tank the Institute of Public Affairs.
Er….

jaycurrie.info-syn.com Found 4 hours ago
“That’s right, very much so. The policy implications are enormous. The meteorological community at the moment is really just coming to terms with the output from this NASA Aqua satellite and (climate scientist) Roy Spencer’s interpretation of them. His work is published, his work is accepted, but I think people are still in shock at this point.

BUT IF HUMANS AREN’T WARMING THE GLOBE… (via Jim Yates):
brothersjuddblog.com Found 41 minutes ago
Climate facts to warm to (Christopher Pearson, March 22, 2008, The Australian)

Bill Clinton Like McCarthy
muskegonpundit.blogspot.com Found 22 hours ago

The BIDINOTTO BLOG
bidinotto.journalspace.com Found 3 days ago
UPDATE , 2/22/08 — Other climate data contradict the global-warming hypothesis. I say “hypothesis” because the more the actual facts accumulate, the greater the temptation to demote it even from the category of “theory.”

Climate facts to warm to
globalwarmingskeptics.info

and http://newsbusters.org/blogs/james-murray/2008/03/22/inconvenient-truth-global-warming-ended-ten-years-ago

Global Cooling Goes Mainstream
poppypundit.wordpress.com
This story has popped up on Drudge and Instapundit. The Australian Broadcasting Company National Radio recently aired an interview with Dr. Jennifer Marohasy , on the subject of global warming. The interviewer, Michael Duffy — not Dr. Marohasy — brought up the question of whether or not the planet is still warming. Marohasy took advantage of the opening to present evidence indicating that the warming trend has actually reversed over the last decade. The interview veered into a discussion of the accuracy of the climate models that have served as the foundation of the current warming hysteria.
http://poppypundit.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/global-cooling-goes-mainstream/

Man Made or Just Another Weather Cycle?
redstateeclectic.typepad.com
Someone really needs to call Al Gore about this–and maybe the Nobel Peace Prize selection committee. From The Australian :

Inconventient
buttle.wordpress.com
facts . “That’s right. The satellite was only launched in 2002 and it enabled the collection of data, not just on temperature but also on cloud formation and water vapour. What all the climate models suggest is that, when you’ve got warming from additional carbon dioxide, this will result in increased water vapour, so you’re going to get a positive feedback. That’s what the models have been indicating. What this great data from the NASA Aqua satellite … (is) actually showing is just the opposite, that with a little bit of warming, weather processes are compensating, so they’re actually limiting the greenhouse effect and you’re getting a negative rather than a positive feedback.

Saturday, March 22, 2008
Who is Jennifer Marohasy?
This is a link to a broadcast from ABC Radio National of Australia regarding the recent global warming summit ignored by the media:
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/counterpoint/stories/2008/2191714.htmThis above link will direct you to either a real audio or windows media player, her segment begins at the 27:39 mark and continues to the 40:43 mark.
In summary, the earth has cooled in the last 10 years…interesting that CO2 has increased in this time.
Here is the print article link:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23411799-7583,00.html
http://handsacrosstheglacier.blogspot.com/2008/03/who-is-jennifer-marohasy.html

… and please add some more links to blog posts as you find them, in the comments section below.

Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: Climate & Climate Change

Unknown Organisms and New Species Found in Antarctic

March 23, 2008 By Paul

Scientists have found that Antarctic waters harbour sea-creatures of startling proportions, with giant-sized specimens surprising researchers during a major survey of New Zealand’s Antarctic seas that ended this week.

Huge sea snails, jellyfish with tentacles up to 4 metres long and starfish the size of large dinner plates were some of the species found during research vessel Tangaroa’s 50-day, 2,000-mile voyage in the Ross Sea, New Zealand marine scientist Don Robertson said.

“I would say there will be hundreds” of previously unknown organisms and “a lot of new species” among the 30,000 specimens collected, Robertson said.

Excerpt from the Telegraph article: ‘Giant sea creatures found in Antarctic’

Filed Under: Uncategorized Tagged With: Plants and Animals

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