Archives for July 18, 2005

I received the following email from a Fletcher Christian. In some of the email exchange associated with getting his approval to post this comment he signed off “Gotta go put Bligh in the long boat.”

Anway, he clearly believes that readers of this web-log are not getting the whole story when it comes to global warming/climate change.

And he writes:

“I note only that mainly anto-global warming dissent gets reported on your blog and any pro-evidence is discarded. Seems pretty selective.

It’s also fascinating to see how “certain” all the anti’s are in this debate; and how the any “uncertainty or caveats” from proponents is jumped on as AHA ! – WEAKNESS.

I’m sure you’re not concerned about what happening out there is terms of temperature changes, freak weather, species movements and Arctic melt.

I’m sure there’s a perfectly rational alternative explanation – it’s just that nobody has come up with one yet. Nor cited any mechanisms except the climate has changed in the past so….

umm …errr… that must be it – yea that’s it….

But we all know what IT COULDN’T POSSIBLY BE true don’t we. We’re all sooooo sure.

Anyway on a few comments to various classics that do the rounds on your blog. And most anti sites.

10,000 years between ice ages. Sorry – wrong – 50,000 to 100,000 years for next one – see NOAA’s site for some intelligent papers on the subject.

10,000 years is a persistent urban myth from mis-reporting popular press of the 1970s – the science journals haven’t said ice age.

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/paleo/milankovitch.html See the references quoted within.

Hockey stick – note you guys have given up on this since the independent confirmation – see as usual proponents turn to http://www.realclimate.org for the news.

and we find – http://www.ucar.edu/news/releases/2005/ammann.shtml hmmm independent verification – whoops…

anyway that will start you all up again. But remember even if the hockey stick was wrong – who cares. But it ain’t…

On Landsea doing a dummy spit. Well boo hoo. Pity he didn’t hang in and help the process.

But it is interesting that we have had those record breaking 300 km/hr plus storms in the Pacific and off WA in recent years.

And gee that South Atlantic storm (hurricane) certainly looked weird.

And did you note our recent tropical cyclone Ingrid’s speed and track – 300 km/hr again and very unusual track across the top.

And have you wondered where all the coast crossing Qld cyclones have gone.

And strangely despite some commentators saying our annual rainfall has increased (well maybe our average overall may have – what a useless statistic)

But everywhere people live and we have agriculture – SW WA, eastern Australia, SE SA, eastern Tasmania, central Queensland seems to have dried up over decades.

Where has all the rainfall gone ?

Any mechanisms come to mind – perhaps annular mode changes in Antartica.

Journal of Climate: Vol. 14, No. 10, pp. 2238�2249

Science, Vol 296, Issue 5569, 895-899 , 3 May 2002

Nah – couldn’t be – it will just be one of those coincidences.

and nothing on those physics stories that confirm the greenhouse flux is pretty well what you’d expect

http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/institut/studium/lehre/Uphysik_Litertur/scholl.ppt
– whoa there – let’s not get technical now.

And nothing on the latest Scripps ocean studies
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4275729.stm

And if anyone says – all the models are wrong without some reasoned comment we’ll all be very cross.

And is anyone says cities have warmed and the heat island effect etc we’ll be evener crosser…. yes they don’t use city data. Jeez.

And no mention of the Christy satellite data story getting reviewed with some different findings.
http://www.climateark.org/articles/reader.asp?linkid=36988

No mention of Wall St journal getting it totally wrong.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?s=wall+st

or Crichton’s State of Fear book telling a few porkies
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=74

or Bellamy going berserk and getting his maths wrong
http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2005/05/10/junk-science/

And also no mention of Oliver North type in the Whitehouse editing the climate change documents from IPCC to water things down ….

Here’s the rebuttal story – yep I believe it – sure ….. http://www.waterconserve.info/articles/reader.asp?linkid=30672

Anyway off to check my oil shale shares, through another whale steak on the barby, and have a fag (smoking doesn’t cause cancer – I simply don’t believe it so it must be wrong).

What’s whale taste like – stronger than dolphin but not as tough as koala. 🙂

Fletcher”

end of message.

There looks like a fair bit of reading at the end of some of those links. Thanks Fletcher for taking the time to compile all this information.